40° Thread for Secure Fixing & High Pull-Out Resistance. 600mm centres using 22mm T&G chipboard flooring AND 15mm plasterboard. 8. looking for work , Oct 9, 2007 #1 Jord86 Screwfix Select. This is a job for a circular saw. #1. read carfully I wrote that chipboard isn't suitable for nailing to, It's too brittle and nails work loose over time. Well that's ok, if they were 24 inches/600odd mm then you'd have to use 22mm thickness material which may limit you to chipboard as I'm unsure if you can get T and G Ply in a certain thickness, google it though whatever you opt for use Tongue and groove as its stronger and eliminates the need for noggins at the edges. It is. Size: W: 600mm L: 2400mm T: 22mm. com. Single Bottle. Laying 20. Diver Fred. It is perfect for domestic applications as well as all general flooring applications. 9/5. Arrange the boards so that when you get to the end of the run the offcut can be used to start the next run aiming for a staggered joint of at least 300mm. Pollowick Screwfix Select. Inc. RK Joiner New Member. High density tongue and grooved particle board. 99 inc. Wickes Chipboard Loft Panels - 320 x 1220mm - Pack of 3 added to "My Project List". FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute. Long lasting. It looks as if we have made a mistake when setting out the levels. Cold room above the garage. The property had woodworm, so this was treated and a number of the rotten boards were removed. In some of the smaller rooms, we will remove the timber floorboards and replace them with tongue and groove chipboard. FWIW, I'll be laying 22mm moisture resistant tongue and groove chipboard flooring onto my battens. 3m 3. The fitting instructions aren't clear, but say to remove "suspended" flooring & replace with 18mm marine ply, before bedding the tray on sand & cement. 79 Inc Vat. IMHO - any wood screw provided it has a smooth shank at least as long as the thickness of the floorboarding. Or buy as many packs of screws your budget can afford and divide the number screws by the number of boards so you use all the screws. the chipboard’s nice and flat, apart from one slight (maybe 3mm) dip along part of one of the joins between t&g panels. 9 Items . 66 = 396mm. com. . 22mm chipboard flooring P5 moisture-resistant is a high-performance flooring panel that provides the perfect base for subsequent floor laying operations such as tiles, carpets,. rogerk101, Jan 25, 2023. Anyway my brother wants to nail a 20mm strip on to the 150 x 50 Floor Joists to bring the level up as I wont be replacing the joists!. gav22, Feb 5, 2010. I intend to lift the floor and fit karndean knight tile as that's what the Mrs wants! This will need to be fitted to 18mm ply on top of the 22mm chipboard. VAT) Quick view. Zinc and blue-passivated and case-hardened. Use glue to join. 6mm ply, straightish room, £12m2, 5x4m room £250-ish. Would it be better to drill through the hanger and screw down through the brickwork and secure them? I have some 6 inch concrete screws or some 6 inch rawlplug bolts that. £ 7. john i did something like this the other week. Our range of Chipboard Flooring and Chipboard Sheets consist of a high standard grade, which has superior strength to support your building project. The thread of a chipboard screw is self-tapping - the screws are fully threaded up to and including 75mm in length, and anything longer is partially threaded with 70mm of thread. Just use a circular saw, set the depth to 20mm and cut a small section out between the joists. 5 or 3 times the thickness of the chipboard for length. Flange Head with Reinforced Neck. £ 17. insulation and strapping screwed and glued to some 22mm chipboard flooring. Add to this the cost of the plastic insert rings at between £25 & £29. 3 I've always found that it's always better to lift large sections of the stuff rather than pittle about with lifting small sections. Pre-grooved 22mm P5 MR Chipboard (1200x600x22mm) either with or without reflective foil. #4. This addition makes Caberdek chipboard ideal for use in new builds or construction sites where the flooring may become exposed to harsh weather conditions. 22mm floor is better. Prices Cut. Zinc and blue-passivated and case-hardened. 03-0. Suitable for Soft to Medium Density Tiles. £49. I was thinking of using some. Start in the corner furthest away from where you want to finish. I would either overboard it with (providing its solid with minimum movement) 6 to 12mm wbp ply or i would rip it up compleatly and put 25mm wbp ply straight over the joists. hi mack got 22mm chipboard flooring down just now what nail size do u recomend mack4165, Mar 23, 2009These Screwfix Deals have now finished but if you want to see our other great deals,see our current offers below. I have looked through the forum and some people recommend 2. I. chipboard floor. Some people recommend no. . I have new T&G 22mm chipboard screwed down in the new living room extension on joists well above specification so it shouldn't move but it is chipboard. Structural grade flooring board. 4. Choose from a variety of MDF sheets and chipboard. com. Don’t forget to glue the joins and screw the floor down with oiled caberfloor screws (from screwfix). The conversion was completed about 8 years ago and we are looking to separate the lounge room with a stud wall. Hundreds of stores nationwide. Worx 710 compact circular saw. Chipboard panels are wood particles mixed with resins. Deep, Sharp, Single Thread for Cutting Cleanly through Wood. All you are doing is putting down a suitable surface to tile on. The floor is limited head height, so overboarding isn't a preferred option. Cheers. Screwfix Community Forum. The joists are 8" x 2", 450mm apart and span about 3m. Checking floor levels has revealed a 50mm lower floor level that will need to be brought up to the new level. The choice is up to you wether you fix 100mm or 300mm but i know which id do. 60; so £12 for the 18mm seems a bit on the expensive side. The combined floor thickness will be 31mm, so don't want to risk 30mm as these may push through the chipboard. Been thanked: 1708 times. ) I've tiled directly onto 22mm waterproof chipboard in 5 bathrooms and 1 kitchen and all are still good many years on. 22mm waterproof chipboard costs £8 per sheet of 2400mm x 600mm, which works out at £144. You could simply cut chipboard rectangles - say 4" wide by whatever gap is in between the joists - and screw them to the underside of the T&G, with half (2") sticking out. Loft boards. Deleted member 33931, Jul 27, 2016. I could have used DPM but had the bitumen left over from something else. , May 15, 2022. rogerk101 Screwfix Select. 00. Existing floor is 22mm chipboard. Plywood. 22mm waterproof chipboard costs £8 per sheet of 2400mm x 600mm, which works out at £144. If you use 30mm and you accidentally sink a mm too deep then you may. Our Black Friday deals have landed! Great prices on selected power tools, storage, electrical & more. Another one said it's a bad idea and 22mm chipboard should be used instead. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute. 19 Inc VAT. . The high-strength structural particleboard is CE marked and engineered for all domestic and specific. The extension joists are lower. 1/ aquapanel screwed and glued on 22mm chipboard or ply with. Chipboard Tongue and Grooved Loft Flooring Panel 18mm x 1220mm x 320mm Pack of 3. geo-d New Member. CaberFix D4. Either 400 centres and 18mm Osb flooring, or 600 centres and 22mm Osb or ply flooring, can also use chipboard but make sure it's P5 rated. Sometimes easier to rip it up and replace any damaged sheets with new. 42 per m 2. This price could be lower if you shop around. pooh New Member. 09 for 22mm. So recently fitted 100mm recticle/cellotex. Need Help. They squeak a lot. The floor does not reach the door because of the cavity. The floor is 22mm T&G chipboard that has been nailed down to 400mm centre joists. Then the underlay and the vinyl tiles. can anyone tell me best type of screw to fix 22mm chipboard to steel joists. Buy Wood, Chipboard & Plywood Cutting & Blades at Screwfix. fiddly, messy, but the customer is v happy!. 8′ x 2′) in size. Suitable for glued or nailed wood flooring. 22mm P5 Moisture Resistant Tongue & Groove Chipboard Flooring 2400mm x 600mm (8' x 2') SKU. KEY FEATURES High-quality moisture-resistant flooring with a P5 grading, ensuring durability in damp environments. My joists are at 400 so going for 20mm anyway and will put in some noggins over the common walkways. 22mm Egger P5 tongue and groove chipboard is a moisture-resistant structural grade flooring board. Thousands of products available. VAT. 3600 x 600mm 22mm Flooring Particleboard Red Tongue. Bosch Expert Multi-Material Holesaw 22mm (937RR) compare. If you don't want to use good olde fashioned t&g flooring planks, then use 22mm subflooring t&g chipboard, but then your joists must be at 400mm centres minimum. The engineered planks will have a clear top coat that is maintenance free and washable. on new buid when we lay a 22mm boards its standard to glue the joints and glue the joists that they are layed upon. number 4 New Member. Ordinary wood glue will be adequate if you have to glue the joints (if anything else is. 22mm chipboard t&g floating floor question? Discussion in ' Builders' Talk ' started by Bobby86, Jan 10, 2022 . Scoob56, May 15, 2022. Three boards down, board clamps on each (or alternate) joist to push. Thread by: Durk, Jul 15, 2021, 6 replies, in forum: Builders' Talk. retry, Aug 26, 2020 #15. £39. Pollowick, Aug 22, 2018 #3. Out of stock for delivery. 8 or no. URN: 4005010. I'd fix at 150 centres as you would do with standard chipboard flooring. you'll then be able to replace it directly with no issues. Screwfix Community Forum. Inc. Thickness: 22mm. TS Thread System Offers a Single & Twin Thread in One, Gripping Fast with a Firm Fix. CGN Screwfix Select. Click & Collect. then cut strips off the T/G P5 22mm @ 45deg, glued/clamped/screwed into place. Also do you fit a loose tonge. 5 x 25mm or possibly the 4 x 25mm from Screwfix. Making jobs easier, reducing critical time on home improvements or housing developments. 00 m-f. Manufactured to EN 312, EGGER Protect is made from EGGER P5 flooring grade chipboard. I'm laying a floating strand bamboo floor on top with a thin underlay. BMC2000 and KIAB like this. On top of this, but not directly on a joist is built a stud wall going in the same direction as the joists. The T&G pretty much eliminates the need for noggins at joints, and the boards of chipboard work better together as an assembled unit than plywood would. handyman. This is sitting on an old pine floor supported by joists over a cellar. Divide that by 600mm and you will have 6. The tongue and groove design. 22mm x 2400mm x 600mm Kronospan P5 Tongue and Grooved Moisture Resistant Chipboard Flooring TG4. They are a fancy blue colour too. If you are using sheet flooring the space screws at 4 to 6 inch spacing into every joist. 012mm/m/deg C, so I expect chipboard is in a similar range, and hence chipboard. Planning to put down new tiles on bathroom floor, which is 22mm chipboard. Tile Adhesive & Grout Thresholds Floor Paints Flooring Screws Double Sided Tape Underfloor Heating Buy Flooring at Screwfix. 99 inc. I'm fitting the tray at floor level with the waste going under the boards. 2) The surface must be clean and free of grit/dirt. What are your thoughts regarding screws for 22mm P6 chipboard flooring. jackelliott07, Dec 2, 2019. Delivery 7 days a week Over 40,000 products. Home Forums > Screwfix. 18mm chipboard floor 22mm laminate and underlay 100mm 6x2 joists (25mm of underside ceiling) 75mm off the ridge for collar ties / downlights New head height = 2110 (6ft 11) In regards to rafters my friend who works for LABC sent me this;Egger D4 Chipboard Flooring Adhesive 1kg. VAT. Rip up the chipboard and then get some Hardie Floor - 18 or 22mm and relay it. 2. Upstairs flooring in house built in 2005 is noisy and creaky to the extent that it’s hard to ignore. Features a tongue and groove design for swift and easy. 1. . Buy Chipboard at B&Q - Order online or check stock in store. I used 22mm green T&G chipboard, glued on the tongue and in the groove and glued the joists using D4. Flooring Chipboard. Learn more. You'll need 1mm for the DPM, 40mm for the insulation, 22mm for the chipboard and whatever for the final flooring (e. The floor level would ideally come up a bit too. Screwfix Community Forum. coefficient of thermal expansion of plywood is in the order of 0. Home Tags > chipboard floor. -markie-, Feb 10, 2020. 2m chipboard sheets with no T&G before and the difference is unbelievable. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 18mm P5 T&G Chipboard Flooring (240x600x18mm) x 20 Sheet Deal at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products. 6/5. Recently im faced with the task of trying to take up more and more chipboard flooring and was thinking of investing in a good nail puller to remove the recessed nails ? sams , Mar 17, 2014 #1I'm planning to put in engineered wood flooring in a 1930s terraced house. Durable, high-density moisture-resistant P5 grade chipboard flooring. end up using sander, easy job . Measure the length of the room to determine how many rows there will be. Jord86, Apr 3, 2018. should I lay 22mm chipboard flooring and screw it down to the concrete? BadHollywood , Apr 14, 2021 #1Screwfix Community Forum. Cut along the nail line with a circular saw set at the same depth as the chipfloor. 27 inc VAT Each. Yes, he tiled it straight onto chipboard with flexi adhesive. MrsB said: ↑. S000086. my concern is that there’s no slab. SKU. Originally was due to put a DPM,130mm TF70 then screed to bring it up to FFL. Chipboard Floor (Read 67349 times) Lectrician. The high-strength structural particleboard is CE marked and engineered for all domestic and specific. Delivery. Moisture resistant. 2) 25mm - Celotex TB3000 Insulation Board. . £28. 1. Use spax 60mm chipboard screws, 3 per joist per board. Our carpenter has suggested that it may make sense to do this throughout the property. Delivery. Some people recommend no. BLUE DIAMOND ASSORTED 9" x 11" GLASS PAPER. 4. Bear in mind that 15mm plasterboard is bleedin' heavy!! 22mm x 2400mm x 600mm Egger Protect Grey Tongue and Grooved Chipboard Flooring TG4 EGGER Protect is manufactured from an EGGER P5 flooring grade particleboard with a unique, weather resistant surface layer applied to both the top and underside of the board. What is the best material to lay on floor as a sound base for the tiles to be. You'd need to varnish/oil it. can't say I have ever come across any flooring that has had adhesive onto joists ,chipboard ,wood,or ply. A room 4 x 4 metres would cost about £380 if using pine t&g boards 140mm wide by 21mm thick (B&Q). I'm giving the bathroom a total revamp and the existing floor boards will be getting replaced anyway. However, the lowest costs we found locally were: £10. Depends on how badly damaged they are of course, but i don't think it's worth it especially if you're carpeting. 4m (W)600mm (T)22mm. The standard 18mm t&g chipboard sheet is 600mm x 2. If they will not shift, then go for T&G and insist it is correctly laid. 42 per m. The floor level goes from 155mm to 260mm across 4m. Similar products. You won't get 21mm boards, however there are several suppliers who stock 22mm thickness softwood PTG. Get great value and great versatility with our range of chipboard and oriented strand board (OSB). Installation too would be tricky. I need to keep the overall height as low as possible and would if possible like to drop the thickness of the floor from the existing 18mm down to 12mm. I strongly recommend the joist approach, as the alternative (floating floor) requires a dead flat concrete base, and I don't know of any self levelling screeds that can achieve that. Structurally it's not necessary, the chipboard is designed to carry itself but it can creak and squeak after a while. £41. As Willy said, if you have to go underneath at anytime you are still going to have to cut the board somewhere as they are all interlocked and won't lift without making a cut. furious_customer said: ↑. Nylon. I am willing to screw the chipboard down as well as the nails. Login to save for later. I think bite the bullet, rip it up and install 22 T&G flooring chipboard. Plane down the tongues by about half and remove the sharp corners and then on the two removable boards, plane a small chamfer on the underside corner of the tongue side. Egger D4 Chipboard Flooring Adhesive 1kg. makitamark, Sep 17, 2006. jamesjoe90 New Member. VAT £ 12. Smooth sanded surface. The first 2 joists which are under where we were hoping to put them are that span, then next one spans. I've used it today to cut a section out of my 22mm chipboard flooring and it really struggled. Multi-Head Countersinks Screw. Under Maintenance. Deleted member 11267, Nov 11, 2016 #12. I have looked through the forum and some people recommend 2. I sheeted over the 22mm chipboard with 12mm chipboard to create a better subfloor. I would avoid using sheet material for flooring as it would be even worse than T&G chipboard for gaining access. 66. Get an evolution saw and you can even cut right through the nails if any are in the way. use 18mm ply or 22mm chipboard, support all edges and use tongue and groove for the strongest floor, glueing all joints. I think my 2 current options are: a) Paint the chipboard with black bitumen paint (blackjack) so it doesn't absorb any moisture from the mortar mix (absorbing water could mean the mortar sets weaker / cause chipboard to swell) and then press on with putting down the tray Plane down the tongues by about half and remove the sharp corners and then on the two removable boards, plane a small chamfer on the underside corner of the tongue side. Steel Slotted Barrel to Aid Removal of Debris. 1000s of DIY supplies. I think I have about 300mm to play with. The stud wall that separates these two rooms was created before the floating floor was installed so is sitting on the concrete garage base (on top of the dpm). e 62. Due to the house being out of square etc a lot of the joists near the walls are a few inches away and hence a lot of the chipboard joins are not supported and join between two joists as the floor panels have started against the. c New Member. 4. I'm just in the process of buying 140 sheets of 8'x2' 22mm. View product details. 22mm x 2400mm x 600mm Egger Protect Grey Tongue and Grooved Chipboard Flooring TG4. rogerk101 Screwfix Select. I was going to put down a traditional insulated screed floor in but was a bit put off by the drying time before laying floor covering, (estimated at around three months, give or take, based on 85mm screed at 1mm per day). 22mm Chipboard floor over insulation. Chipboard flooring has T&G-type edges which makes it very solid at its joints - use adhesive such as polyurethane along all joints (expands slightly as it. Chipboard flooring is relatively cheap. It was nailed down and I added 40mm screws when I moved in (all I had under lockdown). Our two principle brands stocked at Southern Timber are Norbord Caberfloor and Kronospan, and large. All our standard chipboard is from well-managed forests. coefficient of thermal expansion of plywood is in the order of 0. Jord86 Screwfix Select. Inc. 99 Inc Vat. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute. No Cooling Required. 22mm P5 Moisture Resistant Chipboard Flooring T&G provides a solid base for additional flooring work. !" The Best Screws for Flooring. Screw and glue the floor down and it wont squeak at all. pooh New Member. Order online for delivery or Click & Collect at your nearest Bunnings. 1) You have a level floor, whether it be chipboard or any other base. All of the floors are currently carpet over floorboards. 99 Inc Vat. Soudal Fix ALL Wall & Floor Hybrid Polymer Adhesive 2. #10. Mikey s, Jul 18, 2021. Glue down with a thick water based adhesive and screw, don't walk on the floor until the glue has set or you may squeeze it out from the joint. 4mx1. You'll need to juggle the costs - which is cheaper, 400 centres with 18mm chip and 12mm board but more joists or fewer joists and 22mm/15mm as above. £25. The stud wall that separates these two rooms was created before the floating floor was installed so is sitting on the concrete garage base (on top of the dpm). Not sure whom to trust. There will be no joists. Not sure whether to just use normal pva wood glue or D4 (seen this is for chipboard), Or is there something else people recommend? 3. is it to late to think about getting. Screwfix Community Forum. I plan on laying T&G, 22mm, P5 chipboard flooring soon and would like to know what type and size screws should be used. VAT. Do I have. Use 22mm thickness floorboards, not 18mm, oversized spacing won't matter then provided its storage purposes. Wickes flooring is laid with the label on top (there is some printing showing which way up as well if the label is missing). Then stack the sheets flat, back to back, for 24-48 hours (48-72 hours for tempered boards). For use with high density fibre boards. 4. VAT. New Lickpro Paints. 11. Under Maintenance. Inc. Jablite comes in different thicknesses and chipboard in 18 or 22mm so you should be able to get the required lift. Hi, so I have just had a company in to install LVT flooring in several upstairs rooms (which I'm very pleased with) and as part of the process they put 6mm plywood over the 22mm chipboard covering the joists and secured the ply. Replacing all of the boards is expensive and probably a waste of money. Jord86, Mar 12, 2017 #3. 0 X 60mm screws but have just discovered a Spax floorboard screw. use 22mm if poss jonob, Dec 23, 2004. Mr. Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by Dawsy, Nov 18, 2017. 39Inc Vat. I live in a new-build, so the chipboard sounds the same as your newly laid.